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Jennifer Welsh on The New World Order | The Herle Burly

Published: 19 January 2026

Director Jennifer Welsh joined The Herle Burly podcast to discuss the implications of Prime Minister Carney’s recent trip to China.

Welsh argues that while a “New World Order” is indeed emerging, the real question is what form it will ultimately take. She emphasized that U.S. foreign policy is undergoing a deeper shift that extends beyond Donald Trump, and that even with a potential administration change in Washington, a return to past models of U.S. leadership is unlikely.

She further argued that we are currently in a transactional world and highlighted the need to invest in friendships with other parts of the world to help lay the groundwork for true diversification.

Listen to the full podcast.

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